In this conversation held on October 1, 2018, as part of the Works in Progress series at the National Gallery of Art, Terence Washington discusses with Joel Ulmer his journey as an artist. The presentation focuses Ulmer’s artistic approach, influences, and the significance of classism and identity in his work. The conversation was preceded by a screening of a film on Ulmer’s art and life directed by photographer Jonathan King. This program is held in conjunction with the exhibition of new work by Ulmer on view October 5-28, 2018, at The Fridge DC.